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BabyCity
06-10-08, 13:01
I don't like bringing it up, but in reading all of the press lately on budget crisis facing the region I figure some solutions can come from anywhere, even people who read and post on this site.

$17 million in the hole...how does a City the sizes of San Bernardino turn that around?

Well, let's look at it like our own budgets at home. We cut luxuries, we refinance debt, we eliminate redundancy, we manage our wallets, and we find ways to still survive.

Personally, since August of last year I have had a $30k dollar per year loss in wages due to my wife reducing her work hours and due to a loss in overtime. Is it wrong for people to depend on OT to pay their bills? Does this make me a bad guy? I guess someone will chime in, but when the OT isn't there, you pick up a side job, tell your kids, "no", or even cut the river trips. God forbid!

What can the City of San Bernardino do? What is defined as "Luxury"? I'm sure the arson dog program could be viewed as a luxury. What's worth more, a disaster preparedness program that can help an entire city...or a dog program that puts 2 people per year in a courtroom? Oh yeah, all to the tune of the same dollar amount.

What about EMS??? Why do we consistently strive to have the best technology when we are surrounded by hospitals and other providers that HAVE THE SAME OR BETTER STUFF? This is a CITY, not some back road rural fire department in Kansas where there's no fire hydrants or street signs, (although the guys in Victorville would beg to differ). My point being, we have been forced to become redundant to show other agencies we can do the same thing, and to feel better about the job we do. We have been led to believe that the medical professionals that forged the way for us were somehow a bad example, so therefore we need to change it. Why do we need an Auto Vent to the tune of $4k each, what’s wrong with a BVM at 12 bucks? Why do we need 12 leads if AMR has them? You say AMR might be late right, so we need that stuff. Here’s an idea, get another provider! (I realize it’s easier to say than do, we tried that, I know) Why is it we send a licensed paramedic from a fire engine and from an ambulance to the same prescreened incident? Luxuries folks. I'm sure some of you my think its crazy talk...but back in the days of BLS fire engines and 3 ambulance providers in the valley, the calls still got run, people got transported to hospitals, and guess what? People still lived. Medics on fire engines are great, but double and triple redundancy of equipment is a waste.

Does everyone from a headquarters need a take home vehicle? Maybe, I don't know. But I'm sure they don't need a 6.0 liter 350 gas guzzler pushing them around. Does your fire engine need a new EMS bag? Probably not, but we could sure use some new clipboards stocked with PCR's and pens. Do we really need another computer on our fire engine? If it breaks what do we use, that’s right…pen and paper. Technology is great, don’t get me wrong, but for it not to be considered a luxury it should seriously impact someone’s life or property.

When was the last time a computer, an Auto Vent, an EMS bag, or even an EZ-IO saved someone’s life. I can’t think of any.

Trim the fat, we all come out healthy.


Nice Clark, real nice.
:eek:

maddog411
06-10-08, 13:43
Hey Baby!

I love your passion. You make some really good points. I enjoy listening to you guys that work for municipal departments.

as a private sector Firefighter, we are faced with the threat of cutbacks at times, but those whom we serve require minimum coverage levels for fire protection so it really never has much weight.

I never got used to working overtime, so in slowing times and the scares of making less income, I'm still alright. My lifestyle never changed to become in absolute need of overtime.

firemedic301
06-10-08, 14:12
BabyCity I think you have some good points!!!!! I completely agree with the arson dog program being cut in times of crisis, it is fluff. I would REALLY like to see what "Disaster Prep" does on a daily basis to justify the huge paycheck . I could be competely ignorant (wouldn't be the first time) about Disaster Prep. I saw first hand how the Disaster Prep worked in Hesperia with all the C.E.R.T. (Community Emergency Response Team) Training (THOUSANDS OF $$$$$$) and WE all know when the crap hits the fan in a major earthquake, who is it that handles BUSINESS, that's right US not all the so-called CIVILIANS responders!!! But, if the Disaster Prep guy generates a huge amount of GRANT money then more power to him, and make him paid on COMMISSION not salary. Other than MANDATORY training do away with it. Heck I don't have any of the answers, but I think all US floor personnel know what it takes to run the calls we get everyday and OUR point of view on where cuts can be made are going to be VERY different from the Chief, however, at the end of the day it boils down to POLITICS!!!! That is why I and most of us dislike POLITICIANS, because TRUELY at the END of the day ALL they care about is them, and not US or the PUBLIC'S SAFETY. I hope through these times and cuts THEY DON'T prove me right!!!
Nuke OUT

firemedic301
06-10-08, 14:18
Maddog411 are you out at the Fort??? If so how would I get in touch with Josh "Chief" Cooper???

maddog411
06-10-08, 14:23
Maddog411 are you out at the Fort??? If so how would I get in touch with Josh "Chief" Cooper???

I gotta plead the 5th 301! :p

I see if I can get him to get a hold of you though.

The Donger
06-10-08, 15:14
As for the auto-vents, we carry 4 on every truck! And they are very expensive.

BabyCity
06-10-08, 17:56
I guess if you count firemen as autovents, then they are pretty expensive...but hey, someone needs to feed the dog and work on the toughbook, right?

sansoofireman
06-11-08, 00:13
What's worse? Not having the equipment? Or having the equipment, having been TRAINED on the equipment, then it all sits in a box and never makes it onto the engine? Sorry to vent... that "whooshing" sound is all of the EMS Grant money flying out the window...

deceptacon
06-11-08, 16:07
Baby city is a gangster....
I like how you roll....

trkmant46
06-11-08, 19:18
Auto Vents! You guys have it made. We still use the good ole method of FF's bagging the pt. with bvm's.

Johnny on the spot
06-12-08, 11:43
You think I could get a good deal on those GINORMOUS black tough boxes we were supposed to get for our EMS stuff? I could use a good padded water-resistant box to put my spare prop, prop-puller, tools, mask and snorkel in...

As of right now, they are sitting in a super cluttered office/storage room, getting dusty and old; right next to the auto-vents, I.O. drill, 12 lead adapters, peds pulse oxes, fanny packs, and a box with all the 12-lead class handouts...